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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reopened Lyrics seems to be changed in sync Reply with quote

Hi, yesterday i sync lyrics and all things where ok

today i have reopened the lyrics but many words are not longer syncronized...

i've spent much time to syncronize manually and the editor don't give much help to reduce time for a good syncronization.

now i will test the issue with simple lyrics because i don't believe this is true.. Crying or Very sad

see ya.

Giuliano.
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X-Rom



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

i've tested, maybe the problem is due to the fact

the words are too long and they overlap i was editing a rap lyric
and maybe it is not possible because the rendering speed is too slow
than the sync speed of the lyrics.

the video render the entire word althought there is another word
that become before the finish of the rendering of the previows word

i made a simple test file containing a very simple beat like base (130 BPM)

than i sequenced a lyrics like
one/two/three/four
five/six/seven/eight
one/two/three/four
five/six/seven/eight

in the first time after manual sync is all ok if i sync every quarter
i rendered an avi video and it is ok

and if i reopen the file is ok

if i sync every 1/8 after manual sync is all ok
but after i reopen the file
sliced word appare much close each other
and so the text higlighting in the karaoke render speed up a lot
loosing sync.

i made i second example replacing word with numbers in the lyrics
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

and sync every 1/8

and then reopen is all ok because there is enough space (character are less than one/two/trhee...

same thing for 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8

or other similar tests.


hope it can be solved because in rap some word are longer than
the timing.. i hope you understand
think a eminem lyrics in example
he speak some words faster to keep them syncronized not speak them in normal speed every word.

i cannot make a karaoke video for my song with this program (without loosing the reusability of source project file) since this issue can't be resolved..

Bye.

Giuliano
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X-Rom



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done again other tests

take a look at wave and lyrics sync.. maybe it is
something like the wave or the lyrics timing does not
start in the same way everytime you play in the karaeditor
the result is a slighty loose of sync...

sometimes is perfectly sync as you done
sometimes is slighty different

the difference is much evident if there are closer words

i do not know how the program manage Sound Data Chunks
but i think a better sync can be done buffering first
audio chunks and establishing a initial frame of sound
that starts the time for lyrics sync
if lyrics time sync start on a random initial sound data chuncks
there may be a slighty difference that amplify as looong as the song is
and a little error done positioning words by who edit lyrics sync
will amplify itself if the music and eventually words recorded
are perfectly timed

naturally all my intentions are to improve the program because i've bought it and i love it.

bye.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult to say, we didn't experience such syncs issues.
Maybe you can send the KFN file to the support, we'll check it...
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